Saturday, January 19, 2008

Pot control or weak play?

You decide:

FullTiltPoker Game #4917468578: Table Helen (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:00:40 ET - 2008/01/19
Seat 1: DubsPoke ($79.95)
Seat 2: Paschaa ($47.40) (decent TAG type player)
Seat 3: LL Pimpman ($14.35)
Seat 4: SimmoTV ($19.70)
Seat 5: michiamoclaudio ($13.55)
Seat 6: farbiza ($22.70)
DubsPoke posts the small blind of $0.10
Paschaa posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DubsPoke [Kh Ks]
LL Pimpman raises to $0.50
SimmoTV folds
michiamoclaudio folds
farbiza folds
DubsPoke raises to $1.75
Paschaa raises to $3
LL Pimpman calls $2.50
DubsPoke calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [2s 3c Td]
DubsPoke checks
Paschaa bets $3.75
LL Pimpman folds
DubsPoke calls $3.75
*** TURN *** [2s 3c Td] [3d]
DubsPoke checks
Paschaa bets $8
DubsPoke calls $8
*** RIVER *** [2s 3c Td 3d] [9c]
DubsPoke checks
Paschaa checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Paschaa shows [Jh Jd] two pair, Jacks and Threes
DubsPoke shows [Kh Ks] two pair, Kings and Threes
DubsPoke wins the pot ($30.90) with two pair, Kings and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $32.50 | Rake $1.60
Board: [2s 3c Td 3d 9c]
Seat 1: DubsPoke (small blind) showed [Kh Ks] and won ($30.90) with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 2: Paschaa (big blind) showed [Jh Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Threes
Seat 3: LL Pimpman folded on the Flop
Seat 4: SimmoTV didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: michiamoclaudio didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: farbiza (button) didn't bet (folded)


  1. Pretty weak all around, I'd say. Not a huge fan of flat calling the re-raise preflop, and check-calling all the way down with an overpair on a pretty harmless board is not a good way to maximize the value of your hand.

  2. I am not sure you played this weakly enough. I think you could have played it weaker by folding pre-flop. Sorry for the sarcasm. Nothing personal I hope. You need to re-raise this pre-flop and get head-up. I think he would have put it all in right there. What are you afraid of on every street that you check-called K-K? I think if you didn't get it in pre-flop then you need to lead out on the flop and push all-in to his raise (which he would have done to your bet). The money should have gone on the turn the latest, considering your opponent's hand. You left a lot of money on the table there, a little more than $30. I think he goes broke with this hand. If you are not willing to push with K-K, for which hands are you waiting?

  3. TMS - you're right. Two items that played into my decision. I lost a buy-in earlier in the session with KK vs AA. Reraises with strength scared me. I then got scared that he hit a set and didn't want to lose a buy-in.

    What seperates decent players from great poker players is the ability to seperate the last hand from the current one. I lost a lot of value because I didn't do this.

    Additionally, something that I've learned from my short time with cardrunners is the value of isolation. My posting is a FANTASTIC example of how NOT to play KK.

    I've got a lot to learn about cash game play, reviews like yours definitely help.

  4. I know I've certainly misplayed K-K at times. But when you have K-K and don't go broke to A-A then consider yourself somewhat lucky (of course it depends on the situation). Like Harrington says about set over set. You are going to go broke and there is nothing you can do about it.